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CIC messages/ship announcements have the same cooldown as HUD orders (and more character limits) #16364

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@Neocloudy Neocloudy commented Jul 18, 2024

About The Pull Request

CIC messages, and ship announcements (comms console) use the same cooldown as HUD orders from Send Orders and AI announcements. Also, they have a maximum length and CIC messages use to_chat now.

Why It's Good For The Game

These are way too easy to spam due to lacking cooldowns or maximum lengths, giving them a character limit and making them share the cooldown of Send Orders and AI announcements will significantly reduce that.

Chances are, CIC messages that are really long are either really terrible and impossible to understand in the short time they're visible or being (ab)used to fill your screen with random letters for 30 seconds. A character limit should help with both of these issues.

Little side note, CIC messages in general suck (because either using big volume on the radio or using Send Orders does its job much, much better for many cases), but giving them chat feedback alongside an easily missable screen alert will make them ever so slightly better.

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balance: CIC messages and comms console announcements use the same cooldown as HUD orders from Send Orders/AI alerts.
balance: CIC messages have a maximum length of 100.
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@tgstation-server tgstation-server added the Balance Changes to functionality that modifies how effective certain methods are at powergaming. label Jul 18, 2024
@Neocloudy Neocloudy changed the title CIC messages/ship announcements have the same cooldown as HUD orders CIC messages/ship announcements have the same cooldown as HUD orders (and more character limits) Jul 18, 2024
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I understand worrying about abuse, but that's something that should really be handled at the administrative level. When an active SO or Captain is issuing concise and useful information via CIC, this is an AWFUL nerf to them. Again, I can 100% get the point, but am not sure this is a necessary change.

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to_chat function is pretty cool, really strange how the cic announcements dosent stay in chat given how they only appear on your hud for 10 seconds

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that's something that should really be handled at the administrative level.

This will never be handled at an administrative level

using big volume on the radio or using Send Orders does its job much, much better

Good PR but it's nevertheless worth pointing out that no, big volume on the radio doesn't do_shit_. It is never, ever seen, the command equivalent of pissing in the wind. Also doesn't send orders literally do the exact same thing as CIC announcements do???

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It's because 50-80% of chat at any given point is large text which means it's nothing special

@TiviPlus TiviPlus merged commit c99c1a7 into tgstation:master Jul 23, 2024
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