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* doc: add minutes for meeting 24 Apr 2024 Signed-off-by: Michael Dawson <[email protected]>
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| # Node.js Technical Steering Committee (TSC) Meeting 2024-04-24 | ||
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| ## Links | ||
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| * **Recording**: <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0K4MYF5nZA> | ||
| * **GitHub Issue**: <https://github.com/nodejs/TSC/issues/1535> | ||
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| ## Present | ||
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| * Antoine du Hamel @aduh95 (voting member) | ||
| * Yagiz Nizipli @anonrig (voting member) | ||
| * Benjamin Gruenbaum @benjamingr (voting member) | ||
| * Ruben Bridgewater @BridgeAR (voting member) | ||
| * Joyee Cheung @joyeecheung (voting member) | ||
| * Chengzhong Wu @legendecas (voting member) | ||
| * Matteo Collina @mcollina (voting member) | ||
| * Michael Dawson @mhdawson (voting member) | ||
| * Moshe Atlow @MoLow (voting member) | ||
| * Rafael Gonzaga @RafaelGSS (voting member) | ||
| * Richard Lau @richardlau (voting member) | ||
| * Robert Nagy @ronag (voting member) | ||
| * Ruy Adorno @ruyadorno (voting member) | ||
| * Paolo Insogna @ShogunPanda (voting member) | ||
| * Michaël Zasso @targos (voting member) | ||
| * Rich Trott @Trott (regular member) | ||
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| ## Agenda | ||
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| ### Announcements | ||
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| * Next major (22) release is in progress today. | ||
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| ### CPC and Board Meeting Updates | ||
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| *Extracted from **tsc-agenda** labeled issues and pull requests from the **nodejs org** prior to the meeting. | ||
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| * No updates this week | ||
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| ### nodejs/node | ||
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| * lib,src: remove --experimental-policy [#52583](https://github.com/nodejs/node/pull/52583) | ||
| * Was added as an FYI for awareness, proposal is to remove it. | ||
| * Of the 13 TSC members in the meeting, there were no concerns. Richard mentioned that | ||
| we should doc deprecate as soon as possible. | ||
| * was doc deprecated in <https://github.com/nodejs/node/pull/52602> based on the suggestion | ||
| * Also going to be discussed in next security-wg as there had been some interest from the | ||
| Microsoft in terms of the feature. | ||
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| * tools: change inactive limit to 9 months [#52459](https://github.com/nodejs/node/pull/52459) | ||
| * Yagiz - want to explain reasoning, originally was towards security. But realized that main | ||
| motivation is not security but something else. In reality the bar to stay as an active | ||
| collaborator is very low, committing one commit or reviewing one commit. So easy to | ||
| extend. This gives the false view that Node.js has lots of maintainers, also gives false | ||
| view of what kind of support people can expect. It is easy to come back from Emeritus. | ||
| * Pushing now for 9 months to see where the TSC stands | ||
| * As Michael mentioned, concern may be that life events may make the 9 months too short | ||
| * Benjamin, if security is the issue, other approaches such as limiting who really needs commit | ||
| bit versus removing collaborators | ||
| * Benjamin, In terms of the view of collaborators, reviews are most important to me, so making | ||
| sure we can retain maximum reviews may push against removing people | ||
| * Joyee, if we want to depend only on commit queue, we need people maintaining the commit | ||
| queue it is not stable enough to depend on. | ||
| * Matteo: Is the ability to run jenkins is it tied to the commit bit or the ability to write to the repo | ||
| * Richard, today there is a group which determines both write access and ability to launch CI | ||
| runs | ||
| * For request CI, it would be based on the same team | ||
| * Benjamin, getting reviews is already hard, keeping people as collaborators I think will help | ||
| getting reviews | ||
| * Joyee, can still ping subsystem teams | ||
| * Benjamin, there are some areas where we are thin on people, chance of getting a review is a | ||
| lot better while they are still part of the project. | ||
| * Yagiz, to summarize we have 100 collaborators, if become inactive move to emeritus. Home | ||
| page advertises that it’s not. Don’t think 12 months is right, also don’t think 9 months is right. | ||
| Is it fair to other collaborators to make it appear that people are contributing when they are | ||
| not? | ||
| * Benjamin, what if we keep the duration, but increase the requirement the amount of work | ||
| * Ruy, reminds people about conversations in the past. There are people who contribute in | ||
| many areas but never get to be core collaborators | ||
| * Matteo, going to propose an experiment. We list the number of people that have passed the | ||
| 9 month barrier (as well as 6 month, etc in terms of what people want to propose) and at the | ||
| mark of 12 we see how many of them have returned, then we will have actionable data to | ||
| work on. | ||
| * Benjamin, what if we ask people after 6 months, and automatically remove after 12 | ||
| * Yagiz, have been a TSC member for a year, and a collaborator a year before that. Don’t remember | ||
| a person to come back. 2 or 3 weeks bargained and compromised on 12. Called for vote as | ||
| I believe the worst decision is better than no decision. Need more strong and opinionated | ||
| Pushback in the TSC so believe we should vote. | ||
| * Antoine, if you call for vote with any data to back up claim, then believe likely lose vote, just | ||
| FYI. | ||
| * Matteo, don’t believe that changing this improves security posture, that is not a reason | ||
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| * deps,lib,src: add experimental web storage [#52435](https://github.com/nodejs/node/pull/52435) | ||
| * On the board meeting agenda to ask about getting approval for License. | ||
| * Meeting is this Friday | ||
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| ### nodejs/TSC | ||
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| * Update meeting times? [#1528](https://github.com/nodejs/TSC/issues/1528) | ||
| * Michael will propose times based on updated data | ||
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| * Node.js Collaborator Spotlight Proposal [#1474](https://github.com/nodejs/TSC/issues/1474) | ||
| * FYI, now documented and open for nominations | ||
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| ### nodejs/admin | ||
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| * Events / Collaborator Summits for 2024 [#814](https://github.com/nodejs/admin/issues/814) | ||
| * Next step is to run survey to see who can make it. | ||
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| ## Strategic Initiatives | ||
| * skipped as we ran out of time | ||
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| ## Upcoming Meetings | ||
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| * **Node.js Project Calendar**: <https://nodejs.org/calendar> | ||
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| Click `+GoogleCalendar` at the bottom right to add to your own Google calendar. |