FM sound doesn't play

[mdpc-msx]

Programs that use FM sound don't work properly.
The same is true for MSX2 and turboR.
It will play if you initialize it with "CALL MUSIC" or "MGSDRV".

[ppeccin]

Hi, Can you detail the problem a little further? What do you mean by "programs"? Is it any program? BASIC programs with PLAY command? What is "don't work properly"? Is it no sound at all, or corrupted sound, or sound through an incorrect device? Also, if you can test the same scenario on a real machine and compare results, then tell me what happens, that would be very helpful. Or maybe provide an example of the problem and what should be the correct behavior? Thanks, Paulo

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[mdpc-msx]

Thank you for your reply.

There is no sound at all.
It is a patch I made (a game ROM that adds FM sound generation functionality)
and a program that runs on BASIC.

Sound does come out on the actual machine, openMSX, and blueMSX.

[ppeccin]

I see... Can you send the programs for testing? Paulo

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On Tue, Sep 17, 2024 at 7:46 PM MDPC ***@***.***> wrote: Thank you for your reply. There is no sound at all. It is a patch I made (a game ROM that adds FM sound generation functionality) and a program that runs on BASIC. Sound does come out on the actual machine, openMSX, and blueMSX. — Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub <#107 (comment)>, or unsubscribe <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/AAFOLIGQGW6JWOPGINY2UMLZXCWNFAVCNFSM6AAAAABOMJQI6KVHI2DSMVQWIX3LMV43OSLTON2WKQ3PNVWWK3TUHMZDGNJXGA3DANZTGQ> . You are receiving this because you commented.Message ID: ***@***.***>

[mdpc-msx]

Hello
There is a patch for Hydlide 3 MSX2 version.
Speaks with FM sound source.

https://mdpc.dousetsu.com/utility/msx/hyd3_en_psg.htm
https://mdpc.dousetsu.com/utility/msx/hydlide3.htm

Please use "WinIPS".
"LunarIPS" outputs incorrect data.

[NullPointerReference]

@mdpc-msx Is this one of the patched versions you're talking about ?
https://download.file-hunter.com/assets/webmsx.html?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdownload.file-hunter.com%2FGames%2FMSX2%2FROM%2FHydlide%25203%2520-%2520The%2520Space%2520Memories%2520MSX2%2520Version%2520-%2520T%26ESOFT%2520(1987)%2520%5BWith%2520FM%2520Voice%2520-%2520English%2520TPYE%2520A%5D.zip

It says 'FM Voice English Type A' and it is playing FM sounds just fine; including voice samples when speaking to people in the town ? The ROM file is 768kB.

Can you be very specific about what/when/where it's not working, as it seems to work fine when I try it ?
I also tried the 'Type B' English voice ROM and that was is working fine too it seems ...

[mdpc-msx]

Hello

The patch linked to is a version that speaks using the SCC sound source.
The example I'm using is a version where the music is PSG and the sound is spoken using the FM sound source.

[NullPointerReference]

Thanks; in that case the filenames on the FH website are labelled incorrectly; I tried another version from that website; this time the MSX1 version labelled as PSG + FM Voices; that one indeed seems to use FM for voices:

https://download.file-hunter.com/assets/webmsx.html?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdownload.file-hunter.com%2FGames%2FMSX1%2FROM%2FHydlide%25203%2520-%2520The%2520Space%2520Memories%2520MSX1%2520Version%2520-%2520T%26ESOFT%2520(1987)%2520%5BWith%2520FM%2520Voice%2520-%2520Japanese%5D%2520%5B7553%5D.zip

Trying that ROM on a real (Philips 8250) machine with FM-PAC emulation through a MSX-PICO (I don't have a real 2+ machine or separate original FM-FAC) I do hear the FM voices, whilst I don't hear the FM voices in WebMSX.

Could you please confirm that is the / one of the ccorrect 'FM voices' ROMs I used for testing ?

[mdpc-msx]

Thanks

This ROM image is correct.
Due to storage limitations, not all characters speak,
but on blueMSX and openMSX they will speak using FM sound.

[NullPointerReference]

@ppeccin To reproduce:

1. Start game with this link:

2. In the game's start / 'setup menu':
   --> Select 'Make new character' (+ press spacebar)
   --> Enter some name (+ press enter)
   --> pick some class (+ press spacebar)
   --> select 'Yes' (+ press spacebar)
   --> At the 'stats overview windows' press spacebar once more.

   --> Select 'Game Start' (+ press spacebar)
   --> Press spacebar on the character select screen (only 1 character)

3. In game:
   --> Walk directly upwards into the town / gate directly above your starting position (+ hold cursor up for 2s)
   --> Walk up to the yellow 'knight' in about the centre of the screen (+press spacebar)

A dialog box pops up and you should hear an FM Audio-voice now.