MemeTastic project discussion

[gsantner]

This issue is kind of a mini community forum, a place to discuss about the project, to ask questions and share ideas.

[AllDragonsAreDead]

I'm not familiar with how GitHub works, so I would love if you could mention me, so I can be sure I'll get notification when there's something to translate.

Edit. I see there's "unsubscribe" button, so I guess I was added to subscribers just by your mention.

[gsantner]

O.K, great, thanks! 👍

[gsantner]

I just wanted to note that here too: The license of translations is now Creative Commons Zero 1.0. I received the okay from 2 of you (+1 non gh-user) on crowdin and one by mail. As there are no other translators: App translations are now fully CC0. Thank you for translating!

[gsantner]

Heres some context for the new strings:

[ptrcnull]

@gsantner, thanks for notifying me. I've created a pull request with new strings translated.

[gsantner]

Hi all, I worked a lot on MemeTastic these days. There are a lot of new translateable strings available, feel free to send localizatino updates if you want and have time :).

[ghost]

Hi Gregor, can you explain what do you mean whit "assets" (recent assets, latest assets)?
What an "asset" is in this app? I must know the meaning to translate it.

[gsantner]

assets = fonts and meme templates. more or less "additional data". This will download a zip archive of https://github.com/gsantner/memetastic-assets

[gsantner]

Hi all, hacktober approaches :)

Register on https://hacktoberfest.digitalocean.com/, send a PR to fix this and get your t-shirt for free (4 accepted PRs to same or different GitHub repositories needed) :). You have to mention the issue number in the commit/PR (e.g. fix #20 / about #8) Find more hacktober issues from my projects: https://github.com/search?&q=label%3Ahacktoberfest+user%3Agsantner

[aaabramov]

Hi @gsantner (again)! Would you like to translate your app to Ukrainian? I have already done it for Stringlate

[gsantner]

go for it :D

[LW001]

Would you like me to do german translations?

[gsantner]

@LW001 Thanks, but nope, I am native german and doing translation usually at the same time of finishing development of a fature

[comradekingu]

@gsantner Crowdin does not produce good quality translations, and gets in the way if you try to make that happen.
Use hosted Weblate instead.

[gsantner]

@comradekingu I don't use any auto translation, it's about the tool on the plattform. I also don't pay a agency or like that on Crowdin.

[comradekingu]

@gsantner And you don't have to, either way Crowdin is sub-par. The default editor on Crowdin, and the voting system, does not work. Hosted Weblate is gratis for libre software projects, and there are quite a few professional translators on there.

[gsantner]

@comradekingu The thing is that I have existing experience with it, tools and configuration ready. I have now just activated again what I have done 1-2 years ago and it still works. New one would need again readings, lots of setup and things. And too - I was very happy with it :).

[comradekingu]

@gsantner As do I, you will find I have an account on there, which I am reluctant to use, seeing as Crowdin is a closed source platform that tries to spy on me.
I can avoid that, but then I can't promote the translation in any way.
Android-strings are standard fare on Weblate: https://docs.weblate.org/en/latest/devel/index.html

[comradekingu]

@gsantner 100€ says move it to Weblate.

[gsantner]

@comradekingu I know it's supporting it and too I'm strong defender of freedom. As said I have existing tooling on my side which eases me maintenance and does exactly the things I want in order.
I too have about 60 contacts on Crowdin and I do value working together with those people, as I have already done in past. And as I do see, they did great work there, thats the foundation of translations in most languages in my projects. Not only translations but also my localization tooling improved with their (and yours and everybody here in 's) feedback. Many of those people are also here, receiving mails from GitHub and on Crowdin that the projects are active again.

Still people can translate and send me via Mail/GitHub and I will import those translations manually. But the main translation work is now supposed to be on Crowdin again.

I hope you can understand that, and that I don't want to switch and try another thing with again people having to register somewhere.

@gsantner 100€ says move it to Weblate.

Now to 100€ - I'm not buyable.

[comradekingu]

Just putting money where my mouth is when I ask for things. The good translators are everywhere.

[gsantner]

Sorry not understanding this one quite right^^.

Just for clarification on my message - people can keep using stringlate and existing workflow if they prefer that.

[gsantner]

Hi together! It's nearly 4AM here already (uff) and I have some important projects news for everybody!

I thought about the memetastic-assets archive and the projects goals. I thought about this since months and was thinking whats best for this projects future. I came to the conclusion that it's best to further only deliver bundled assets with the app. I too thought about licenses and 'fair use' of the assets and I decided to not further include such images anymore, don't try to convince me differently.

• This means you have to download and place your favourite meme templates from now on in your Pictures/memetastic/templates directory. This is there since a long time and you can do this since a long time but you maybe have not noticed it.
• Already locally downloaded meme templates and custom templates stay and will be shown in the list
• From now on: MemeTastic has the Internet permission removed. This means even if it wants to, it can't connect to the internet or do anything else than working offline locally on your device. Too there is no, there were never and there will never be tracking in this app.
• All fonts have been moved from archive from to bundled assets, for non-archive users this means you will see more fonts in the selection, for archive users nothing will change. Small amount of images are moved too, mostly those available from openclipart.
• memetastic-assets archive is now really "archived", with the state of the bundled assets. This means all downloads with older memetastic app from now on will get the same as you get with the v1.5.0 update. Too it's archived on GitHub as in readonly.
• Further inclusion of Font or Image assets will be only under free license. This means e.g. CC0/CC/SIL license or alike.
• Code contributions are very welcome as always. That's a point where I thought to talk about in this comment too. I'm since ever quite unhappy with the projects developer community. I back then published the project here, originated from my university project. To work together with people on this very nice project, but honestly the whole is like 99% by me and thats not really what I hoped what will get out of it. People mainly just keep asking for stuff and I do if time allows it, but hardly any community work on stuff (actually 1-2 single small commits a year). I again saw this now in hacktoberfest, where the project received 0 code contributions excluding myselfs.
• So if you want to contribute to the project, always ready for pull requests & Qs.
• Again thanks to translation contributors, thats another big important part of the project. But note that without code/features/bugfixes you can't do much here.

[kaecy]

Not available in the app store?

[kaecy]

Screenshot_20190508-081129

[gsantner]

currently not

[kaecy]

Also I want to say: what the heck have you done to this program? It used to be simple and it was so good.

[kaecy]

I'm so glad I never deleted anything from wiping my phone again and again years ago. I kept them.

0.9.4:
Screenshot_20190508-083747

[kaecy]

Anyway, thanks for creating this amazing app.

[comradekingu]

@andy5995
Don't know if this is you or your kid, but it is generally expected that people don't want their pictures on the Internet without prior consent, not in the least for legal reasons. MemeTastic does not force memes to my knowledge.

[gsantner]

andy contacted me on the community chat months ago with that picture and told me he knows the person and it's agreed for getting under public domain.

Is that's still the case andy? Can you please confirm this?

I'm honestly also quite unsure if I want to add personal people's faces to templates. Please don't get angry if I decide not to add it

[andy5995]

andy contacted me on the community chat months ago with that picture and told me he knows the person and it's agreed for getting under public domain.

Is that's still the case andy? Can you please confirm this?

I'm honestly also quite unsure if I want to add personal people's faces to templates. Please don't get angry if I decide not to add it

Yes, that's right. I'll send you a few extra details in PM on Matrix that might help with your decision.

[andy5995]

Me and @gsantner talked it over and decided to play it safe, and not include the photo, and I've deleted it.

[mrless]

I'm new to github and I'm not very expert ... in the preview of the app there are tabs with categories of memes and other features, but when clone the project there are no templates and related tabs, can someone help me?

[comradekingu]

@gsantner Coverage has gone up by 7-8 languages in two years, and some have lost their completion. The other gsantner projects only have a few languages, in 3-4 years…
I think these would see as much activity in as many days on Hosted Weblate.
However ineffective or lackluster Crowdin may be, is your admirably strong defense of freedom reflected in the since updated terms and conditions of Crowdin? Tracking and profiling, and selling activity to advertisers seems a bridge too far.

Also, having a source of revenue for your projects by way of donation does not qualify for gratis hosting at Crowdin, as per now requiring projects to be non-commercial to qualify.
I don't know what it would take, would you support that kind of thing financially if it came down to it?

[kaecy]

I'm new to github and I'm not very expert ... in the preview of the app there are tabs with categories of memes and other features, but when clone the project there are no templates and related tabs, can someone help me?

Are you a user? Get: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=io.github.gsantner.memetastic

[gsantner]

The screenshots are not up-to-date. Theres a single grid now.

[adamency]

Hi guys, Memetastic is fantastic but I am really in need of a desktop app equivalent. Does anyone know of an open-source meme creator app that is available on desktop ?