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blocks, local_action, ... discoverability issue #2156
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Hey @agowa - thanks for opening the issue! So we just changed the search engine for the docs last night. Today, the block search result seems good. Can you take another look for that one? local_action is still problematic, but I think we can fix that by giving it a header. I think experimenting with https://docs.ansible.com/ansible/latest/reference_appendices/playbooks_keywords.html to get each of those keywords to show up in search results would be the improvement we want to make here, correct? I'm disinclined to add to the collection index as it's mixing things up to solve a search problem. Instead, let's fix the search problem itself. |
The block one is almost perfect now. The search shows the keywords page as well as the dedicated Block pages (The 2nd result is a forwarding to the 3rd, maybe we can hide it?) Only thing we should still change is having this section have a link to this page: https://docs.ansible.com/ansible/latest/playbook_guide/playbooks_blocks.html#blocks for the "local_action" one this page should (somehow) become the top result: https://docs.ansible.com/ansible/latest/playbook_guide/playbooks_delegation.html
Well the reasoning behind my suggestion is simple, if you look at how both block and local_action appear in playbooks they look more like modules and less like keywords. For the local_action one in particular as it is basically the very same syntax as for modules (short and long), it is basically syntactically equal to ansible.builtin.shell and such. e.g. - name: Return motd to registered var
ansible.builtin.command: cat /etc/motd
register: mymotd
- name: Return motd of controller to registered var
local_action: ansible.builtin.command cat /etc/motd
register: mymotd
- name: Return motd to registered var
ansible.builtin.command:
argv:
- cat
- /etc/motd
register: mymotd
- name: Return motd of controller to registered var
local_action:
module: ansible.builtin.command
argv:
- cat
- /etc/motd
register: mymotd The section within the "ansible.builtin" collection index could be as short as:
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Summary
Hi, currently it is a bit hard to find the documentation for e.g. "block" and "local_action". Strictly speaking they're not "builtin modules" but statements. However it is fair to assume that users would look first into this index page for ansible.builtin when looking for them. esp. because the search in the wiki is kinda bad at surfacing information for any of the keywords, also their options aren't that well documented currently either.
Therefore I'd like to suggest two things.
If not already supported allowDeclined in add statements as pseudo modules to ansible.builtin (block, local_action, ...) ansible#84312block
to also be written asansible.builtin.block
,local_action
asansible.builtin.local_action
, and so on. (this is optional, but they're designed to look like a modules within a playbook and are builtin. Therefore at least for me this would make sense).ansible.builtin
. Either within their own section or as "just another module". So that all of their options are documented in our standard format at a place with better SEO.I regularly hit this discoverability issue when looking for either some of the advanced parameters/syntax or when trying to help someone new to ansible solve a problem that demands them.
Also, about local_action in particular, for its verbose syntax it is currently not documented how to call a module that accepts a free_form argument e.g.
ansible.builtin.shell
module. New people (if they find the docs of it at all) often write it either:What do you think? Yey or Ney?
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