Need to revise commercial RO assigned error level

[rtodling]

This is put the discussion on a possible revision of the weighting factor used for commercial RO into a single place.

I will start by presenting how the thinking for the factor used in GSI for handling SPIRE first come about.

The first actual x-experiments to incorporate commercial RO was x0045a (x45 was deemed invalid). Evaluation of DFS for that experiment indicated to me (RTodling) that things were off in comparison to how we typically draw to COSMIC-2. The figure below shows DFS (by obs count) in this case (data for 2020/12/15 to 2021/01/14).

Recall that a problem w/ 45a was that SPIRE was available from the latter half of Dec to mid Jan - the fig (replotted) now includes the period when SPIRE is fully available as well as C2.

After some offline testing, the next run introduced a weighting factor to make the assimilation of SPIRE and COSMIC-2 more like each other (with more even weighting of data between the two instruments). The results of setting the weighting factor to two is shown below for x0046c (data for 2021/12).

Notice:

1. The figures about include data only in the Tropics (20S,20N) to make a fair comparison.
2. The version of SPIRE used in these cases was the so-called NASA version (high-resolution and density - nearly full observing system)
3. This "NASA-version" is apparently known to be a smoothed our version of the data - which some say not to be a full quality because of the smoothing.
4. The "NASA-version" is not suitable for real-time applications - it's made available in delayed mode - but it is suitable for reanalysis.

Given (4) above, when SPIRE was set to run in an FPP experiment, the input dataset that would be plausible for a real time application was a set coming from NOAA (NCEP). Unlike the NASA-version, this NOAA set had no smoothing applied to it and it was densely distributed more like COSMIC-2 than the NASA-set.

More recently (2023/07), in GEOS-FP, the NOAA-version of SPIRE has suffered yet another thinning of sorts and DFS results (2023/08) for SPIRE continue to show (as in FPP) difference for how COSMIC-2 is used. Perhaps the FPP and FP results are indication that we could consider retuning of the error assignment for SPIRE.

Caveat

True DFS (calculated directly from the DA operators) much be a positive quantity. When calculated on the basis of residuals - which the results above are - there is no guarantee that DFS is actually positive. Negative values of DFS are typically interpreted as something not being quite adequately tuned (like obs-errors; or trouble quality control).

The way I look at residual-based DFS is that it is a diagnostic to check the relative contribution of the data to the analysis.

[mjmurph]

Hi Ricardo can you see this message? It's Michael Murphy

[rtodling]

Mohar reports the following ongoing experiments in the GEOS-IT context:

I am not sure which ones you looked at but let me update the archive list again:
(1) /archive/users/mchattop/geosit_gps1 (geosit_gps1/etc/Y2021/M01 and M02) : No SPIRE but has COSMIC2
(2) /archive/users/mchattop/geosit_gps2_SPIRE1 (geosit_gps2_SPIRE1/etc/Y2021/M01 and M02) : SPIRE (spiregpserrinf=2.) and COSMIC2 [I made a typo in the last list)
(3) /archive/users/mchattop/geosit_gps2_SPIRE5 (geosit_gps2_SPIRE5/etc/Y2021/M01 and M02): SPIRE (spiregpserrinf=1.) and COSMIC2
I am currently doing another test :
(4) /archive/users/mchattop/geosit_gps2_noCSMC/ (geosit_gps2_noCSMC/etc/Y2021) : SPIRE (spiregpserrinf=1.) and no COSMIC2 : this has only run a few cycles.

I went ahead and derived DFS for (2) and (3) for 2021/01. The figs below show the results.

and

From these it would seem that not scaling the data (parameter set to 1) would seem to make SPIRE slightly more consistent with C2 than doubling the coefficient.

[rtodling]

I was checking on things I was doing in the past wrt the issue here and I remembered that back then I was looking the ratio of Jo(A)/Jo(B). I notice that in x0045a the analysis was driving quite differently between SPIRE and C2 - this is not inconsistent with what DFS indicates. A picture of the discrepancy of Jo(A)/Jo(B) in x0045a is shown below (as above, Tropics only, for fairness of comparison).

Then in x0046c - when the factor 2 was introduced for SPRIRE - the picture above changes to the following:

Not only the curves are closer, but the jaggedness in the two curves is more alike.

I ran the same Jo(A)/Jo(B) diagnostic for the runs that Mohar has done, more recently, in the context of GEOS-IT. Here is the default for GEOS-IT (w/ the parameter set to 2):

and this is what happens when a run is made with the parameter set to 1 - equal weighing for SPIRE and C2:

It seems to me that in the default case, the curves are more like each other from 50 mb down; whereas in the second case, the curves become more alike above 50 mb - at the cost of the lower stratosphere and upper troposphere. To me, this is a statement that the error characteristics of SPRE and C2 are not quite the same; a single parameter is not enough to adjust the errors and make them fully consistent w/ each other.

[elakkraoui]

Thank you Ricardo for digging up your old results and making new plots for Mohar's experiment. To me, it looks like a coefficient of 1 would be best for Spire even though, as you said, the inflation in some areas makes more sense. Since this is a global number, we also have to mind how it affects the extra-tropics. We were only able to see the slightest sign of impact on temperature in those regions when we removed the inflation. Now the question is: Did your experiment use a different sample of spire, or is this dependent on the period of the tests Jan 2021 vs Dec 2021?

[elakkraoui]

The plots above from Mohar are for global counts, they are not apple-to-apple comparison. Waiting to see the equivalent plots for the tropics only.

[mohar123]

Hi Amal, It is pretty cumbersome and time consuming to filter the data with latitude from the bufr files. I tried yesterday but gave up. The best thing is to use the "all" data from the netcdf files and then filter those with latitudes which I will do today. Thanks, Mohar

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[rtodling]

Thank you Ricardo for digging up your old results and making new plots for Mohar's experiment. To me, it looks like a coefficient of 1 would be best for Spire even though, as you said, the inflation in some areas makes more sense. Since this is a global number, we also have to mind how it affects the extra-tropics. We were only able to see the slightest sign of impact on temperature in those regions when we removed the inflation. Now the question is: Did your experiment use a different sample of spire, or is this dependent on the period of the tests Jan 2021 vs Dec 2021?

Amal,
There is no doubt the version of Spire in all the exps that I had been involved w/ somehow (x-exp) are different; include FPP and FP: that's what makes this a huge challenge. We test w/ one version at some point; "tune it"; then apply it to another situation when the version of the data has changed ... well this is bound not work.

At least for R21C you can stick with a single version of the data, and if indications are that the parameter being used in FP is not correct for the version you have, then by all means have it adjusted.

From my end, I plan to use x0048/49 and to look again the behavior of C2 compared to the version of Spire and now Planet IQ (treated as Spire) and see if and how the parameter should be revised.

[rtodling]

Also, I will say this: I had experimented w/ the 5000 profile version of Spire before and I think the results in the extra tropics were unclear. The benefits can be questionable. I think introducing these many profiles has consequences to how the satellite biases change - if are going to use these many profiles, I suggest you look carefully at how these impact the bias correction.

[gmao-yzhu]

"There is no doubt the version of Spire in all the exps that I had been involved w/ somehow (x-exp) are different; include FPP and FP: that's what makes this a huge challenge. We test w/ one version at some point; "tune it"; then apply it to another situation when the version of the data has changed ... well this is bound not work." -- I concur.

[elakkraoui]

Also, I will say this: I had experimented w/ the 5000 profile version of Spire before and I think the results in the extra tropics were unclear. The benefits can be questionable. I think introducing these many profiles has consequences to how the satellite biases change - if are going to use these many profiles, I suggest you look carefully at how these impact the bias correction.

Noted. We'll look at the impact on satellite biases in the extra tropics.